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Castro on Socialism and Capitalism by mido557 Castro on Socialism and Capitalism by mido557
A wonderful quote that most people can't answer to, because it is the inherent truth.

(I just know someone is gonna cherry-pick one or two countries and generalize -.-)
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YouKnowItMakesSense Featured By Owner 6 days ago  New Deviant
Ahahhaa there is no capitalism ;)

America was founded by idea of more free society and more capitalistic society and now it is gone, market is even less free than China has today.

Socialism is all around us and Castro is mass murderer, he has written even very disturbing lines in his diary how he enjoyed killing people personally.

People who actually control facts and think before when they say something find this very disturbing!
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stabkamay Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2015
true words
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InfinityUnlimited Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2014  Hobbyist
Afuckinmen
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Where there is crime, corruption and lack of democracy there is also lack of proper working capitalism. If there is democracy and no corruption then capitalism works just fine, see Europe, North America.
Socialism failed, it killed tens of millions and left poverty and misser in its place when it died out, while capitalism remains, formor communist countries addopted capitalism like most of the world and capitalism succeded in becoming the global economic system. So I answered your quote with such easy even a retard would answer it as well
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TheMeister1 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2015
THANK YOU !
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HuiiBuuh Featured By Owner May 5, 2015
If there was a direct democracy, without people's obsession for capital, there would not be corruption or crime. Socialism never failed, it is still evolving, as financial aid to old and sick and homeless. The USSR and other states broke down not because of socialism, but because of their rulers: dictators which did not allow for elections to be held and supressed their people.

Remember that.

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oblivionartcraft132 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2014
you're not getting the point are you?
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DigiquillDraws Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2014  Hobbyist
It's in the US.
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MornofVivec Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014
The United States isn't in Africa, Asia, or Latin America.
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Cochegara Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2014
Capitalists sold much more kids in whorehouses and made much more child porn, which is great success.
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Countries which are democratic nd capitalist are combating child slavery and they have very little child slavery, while other countries have huge problems, but thanks for giving all your children for sex slaves Russia, you are nr.1 at this
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Cochegara Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014
Russia IS capitalist state. You know, Third World.
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Russia, China, USA, Japan, South Africa, Italy, Brazil and many other states are capitalist states,all the countries of the world are more or less capitalist. There are no more First World, Second World or Third world, the Cold War is long over, there developed, developing and under-developed countries hdr.undp.org/en/countries
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Cochegara Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014
This map is bullshit. Ruins of Libya suppose to be highly developed? Starving Russia with our rusty infrastructure - highly developed? Ailing, feeble and poor as church-mouse Chilie - highly developed?
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
This is unbiased  source from United Nations, unlike USSR, this is one union that wants freedom and respect for human rights and doesn't lie. Do you only see the bad into things, is your life so miserable and full of hate? Libya is not Afghanistan, its in peace since Gaddafi died, Russia is not africa you cavecunt, it is the 8th world power, do you have any pride at all? Chile is doing the best from all of South America, great democracy and has the best and safest infrastructure that can only rival Japan.  
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Duke-Nidhoggr Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Most of the really poor and undeveloped African nations are communist, such as Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Angola and even South Africa to a certain extent.
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Cochegara Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2014
The USSR had the least influence in Africa and Latin America (which is poorest and undevelopest parts of the world), the largest - in Europe.
Lybia was socialistic.
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014  Student General Artist
Good point, but it's kind of a red herring. "They talk about this, so let's talk about something else."
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FESMiro1 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Success of socialism in order: Norway, Denmark, Neatherlands, Sweden, France, Finland, Venezuela and Cuba
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Edited Nov 15, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Cuba is a poor isolate communist country, socialism failure
Venezuela is the worlds most corrupt country(2nd most corrupt on the american continent) with crime out of control, socialism failure
All other countries are weatern capitalist democracies not socialist in anyway nor political, economical or social, they use social democratic methods which are still capitalist than socialist 
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FESMiro1 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You know communism is an economic term used to descripe a nation, which doesn't have curency, government or any type of leadership, only people working for common good? If you know this, then you wouldn't call any of those nations communist. Socialism has worked, in many different forms. Socialism, with it's own theory and economic model, has many other forms, such as anarcho-socialism, communism, social democracy etc. Social democratic economic model is what most of the nordic countries use (and Neatherlands). I call it socialism, bechose social democracy is it's own part of socialism. More information here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic… Now, when I said that socialism has worked in Cuba and in Venezuela, I only said it bechose I was a bit naive on the subject. I only called them socialist, bechose of some socialistic reforms, such as healthcare, government own business and wealth spreading. Now that I know more about things, I can say that Cuba and Venezuela are not socialist countries anymore! They had some good things and reforms I like, but mostly they are corrupted totalitarian shitholes! 

BTW capitalism and market-economy are not the same. Just lettini you to know that using a word market economy would be more realistic term to use then capitalism...
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Capitalism is a market economic system
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FESMiro1 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It's part of market economy.
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
It is a god damn motherfucking market economy
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FESMiro1 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The term free-market economy is sometimes used synonymously with market economy, but it may also refer to laissez-faire or Free-market anarchism.[

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market…
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The-Conquerors Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
All are good and well except Venezuela and Cuba. Hate to be an ass but the problem isn't socialism, communism, or capitalism. It just seems to be third countries devolve into a dictatorship no matter what's in place. ~ C 
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HailMyself Featured By Owner Edited Jun 16, 2014
Fun fact that i see my own motherland like a mix of communist and capitalism. And you will be shock when you know how well it working together.

Capitalism: We have free market, everyone can trade whatever they like. 'Open shops is even more easy then in "Free World" when you have a house' as my Dutch friend say. Go everywhere you like, just don't forget or lost your ID and pasport. We have bank, yes, everyone save their money in bank.

Communist: No BANK control us. One party only, thanks ancient gods and ancestor that i don't need to see OLD MAN WRESTLING on TV every goddamn weekend or see a protests that force me to closed my shop because everyone to scare to go outside. A good army that fight not for the rich but for the people.

And all this good we have now is not thank to AEMRI F#*%ing CA.
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BlackBloodedEdward11 Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2014
most collapsed or at least change their government to an extent ...
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mido557 Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Not due to the system itself, but either due to internal turmoil (such as in the USSR, a sort of "tug-of-war" happened between the Communists and the Social Democrats, and the Reactionaries won), or due to external influence (American aggression/Imperialism).
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Zero knowledge! The people brought down the communist system for being oppressive, backward, anti-democratic, anti-human, in favor of democracy and capitalism. 
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Emilion-3 Featured By Owner May 29, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Hong Kong. ROK, need I say more and oh, Japan.
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mido557 Featured By Owner May 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you read the description, you'd notice that I wrote: "I just know someone is gonna cherry-pick one or two countries and generalize".
That, my friend, is exactly what you have done.

Hong Kong through inexcusable and horrific exploitation and the ROK through billions upon billions being thrown at by the US. Japan is the only country that has built itself on it's own and that was through mainly social-policies.
Also, 2 countries (not counting Japan because of reasons above) out of 47 in Asia don't really say that much good about Capitalism now, does it?

Better luck next time.
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Emilion-3 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
North Korea, need to be a certain social standing to eat peaches.
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mido557 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
An attack on a heavily misunderstood country?
Huh, somewhat cliche if you ask me.

Anywho, sources?
Oh wait, you have none.
Silly me, expecting credibility from an anti-Communist.
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Emilion-3 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
If North Korea would stop waving nukes around then I think an accord could be reached. Also you think saddam was great what about his son would shoot men and steal their wives and rape them? 
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i is prepping ya.
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mido557 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Any and every country has the right to defend themselves from Imperialist aggression.
The DPRK isn't the one waving nukes; that's the US.
Flying Nuclear-armed B-2s over Korean airspace is not something they did for fun ya'know.

Saddam was a great leader and one of the greatest things to happen to Iraq. Want proof?
Look at life in Iraq pre-2003, and life now.
Education, housing, medical care, equal rights for women, a SECULAR state and much, much more.
All of which have disappeared post-2003 I might add.

I never stated that I like his son; I feel indifferent to his situation.
Even though, I don't know too much about him and most of what is said regarding him is likely to be nonsense.
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Emilion-3 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Well if saddam had been smart he would not have crushed a sovereign Kuwait. Thereby pissing off the UnUn
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mido557 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The thing is that, the situation with Kuwait was a conflict that the West can't possibly understand.
Granted, I do agree it was a bad decision looking back at it now, but it was quite sound and serious at the time.
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MornofVivec Featured By Owner May 8, 2014
I might not agree with everything Castro stands for, but he does have an excellent point here. There are some significant successes of capitalism in Africa, Asia, and Latin America, but I can more easily think of capitalist failures in those places, failures that outnumber the successes.
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bruiser128 Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
My friend emailed me this picture on Facebook,
and it is the question westerners(mostly Americans) can't answer.
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JjinttaSet Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014  Student General Artist
Though he may have a point concerning capitalism, and more likely racially driven exploitation, I still find it to be a red herring. I am not convinced that communism, as I understand it, is a viable long term solution.
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mido557 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't believe so, but that's a bit beside the point.
Mind explaining why you think Communism is not a long-term solution?
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JjinttaSet Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014  Student General Artist
Well, it just seems like pointing out that there are flaws in capitalism doesn't invalidate the proposed flaws, whatever those may be, in communism. Then again I could just be perceiving an intention that wasn't there.

I hope you don't think I'm trying to change you. I'm merely curious about what you think.

I have not seen it work, I see all of the self-proclaimed communist countries and they all seem to be poor and repressive. Plus managing the logistics of an entire economy would be fairly difficult, I don't think one organization can do all of that. That's all I can think of at the moment.

I'm sorry if my sentences get a little confusing to read, I have the tendency to create awkward sentences.
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mido557 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No it's fine. You seem civil and curious so I'd gladly discuss with you, haha.
All of those so-called "Communist" countries are simply not Communistic whatsoever. Hardly Socialist either.
Marx himself has said that in order for Socialism and eventually Communism to develop, Democracy must be present. If it isn't, then it's not Socialism.

Regarding a planned-economy, well, you have a point. It is indeed difficult, but it branches off from heavy bureaucracy, and that isn't agreed upon between all Socialists. There are of course other forms of economy that could work with Socialism.

That's fine, haha.
There are many problems with Communism, just as with Capitalism. The difference is that under Communism, those problems can be solved, whilst under Capitalism, they cannot. An example would be the problem of poverty, which cannot be eliminated under Capitalism.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Africa, Asia and Latin America don't have a democratic republic to provide restraints, checks and balances.

Dumbass dictator...
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mido557 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh, refer to the other discussions ._.
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lisa-im-laerm Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
hmmm, not untrue! :confused:
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SchmittLenin Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014
Am I the only to be tired of being treated of totalitarian freak by people who do not understand that Stalin's rules wasn't communism?
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Zark32 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Student Digital Artist
As our capitalist society teaches them, they remember just bad people and things that are related (geographically, in this case) to communism. My history book in school arrived at insulting communism openly. And those who discuss in a civil way are very few.
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