Where there is crime, corruption and lack of democracy there is also lack of proper working capitalism. If there is democracy and no corruption then capitalism works just fine, see Europe, North America. Socialism failed, it killed tens of millions and left poverty and misser in its place when it died out, while capitalism remains, formor communist countries addopted capitalism like most of the world and capitalism succeded in becoming the global economic system. So I answered your quote with such easy even a retard would answer it as well
Countries which are democratic nd capitalist are combating child slavery and they have very little child slavery, while other countries have huge problems, but thanks for giving all your children for sex slaves Russia, you are nr.1 at this
Russia, China, USA, Japan, South Africa, Italy, Brazil and many other states are capitalist states,all the countries of the world are more or less capitalist. There are no more First World, Second World or Third world, the Cold War is long over, there developed, developing and under-developed countries hdr.undp.org/en/countries
This map is bullshit. Ruins of Libya suppose to be highly developed? Starving Russia with our rusty infrastructure - highly developed? Ailing, feeble and poor as church-mouse Chilie - highly developed?
This is unbiased source from United Nations, unlike USSR, this is one union that wants freedom and respect for human rights and doesn't lie. Do you only see the bad into things, is your life so miserable and full of hate? Libya is not Afghanistan, its in peace since Gaddafi died, Russia is not africa you cavecunt, it is the 8th world power, do you have any pride at all? Chile is doing the best from all of South America, great democracy and has the best and safest infrastructure that can only rival Japan.
Cuba is a poor isolate communist country, socialism failure Venezuela is the worlds most corrupt country(2nd most corrupt on the american continent) with crime out of control, socialism failure All other countries are weatern capitalist democracies not socialist in anyway nor political, economical or social, they use social democratic methods which are still capitalist than socialist
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You know communism is an economic term used to descripe a nation, which doesn't have curency, government or any type of leadership, only people working for common good? If you know this, then you wouldn't call any of those nations communist. Socialism has worked, in many different forms. Socialism, with it's own theory and economic model, has many other forms, such as anarcho-socialism, communism, social democracy etc. Social democratic economic model is what most of the nordic countries use (and Neatherlands). I call it socialism, bechose social democracy is it's own part of socialism. More information here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic… Now, when I said that socialism has worked in Cuba and in Venezuela, I only said it bechose I was a bit naive on the subject. I only called them socialist, bechose of some socialistic reforms, such as healthcare, government own business and wealth spreading. Now that I know more about things, I can say that Cuba and Venezuela are not socialist countries anymore! They had some good things and reforms I like, but mostly they are corrupted totalitarian shitholes!
BTW capitalism and market-economy are not the same. Just lettini you to know that using a word market economy would be more realistic term to use then capitalism...
All are good and well except Venezuela and Cuba. Hate to be an ass but the problem isn't socialism, communism, or capitalism. It just seems to be third countries devolve into a dictatorship no matter what's in place. ~ C
Fun fact that i see my own motherland like a mix of communist and capitalism. And you will be shock when you know how well it working together.
Capitalism: We have free market, everyone can trade whatever they like. 'Open shops is even more easy then in "Free World" when you have a house' as my Dutch friend say. Go everywhere you like, just don't forget or lost your ID and pasport. We have bank, yes, everyone save their money in bank.
Communist: No BANK control us. One party only, thanks ancient gods and ancestor that i don't need to see OLD MAN WRESTLING on TV every goddamn weekend or see a protests that force me to closed my shop because everyone to scare to go outside. A good army that fight not for the rich but for the people.
And all this good we have now is not thank to AEMRI F#*%ing CA.
Not due to the system itself, but either due to internal turmoil (such as in the USSR, a sort of "tug-of-war" happened between the Communists and the Social Democrats, and the Reactionaries won), or due to external influence (American aggression/Imperialism).
If you read the description, you'd notice that I wrote: "I just know someone is gonna cherry-pick one or two countries and generalize". That, my friend, is exactly what you have done.
Hong Kong through inexcusable and horrific exploitation and the ROK through billions upon billions being thrown at by the US. Japan is the only country that has built itself on it's own and that was through mainly social-policies. Also, 2 countries (not counting Japan because of reasons above) out of 47 in Asia don't really say that much good about Capitalism now, does it?
If North Korea would stop waving nukes around then I think an accord could be reached. Also you think saddam was great what about his son would shoot men and steal their wives and rape them? ---- i is prepping ya.
Any and every country has the right to defend themselves from Imperialist aggression. The DPRK isn't the one waving nukes; that's the US. Flying Nuclear-armed B-2s over Korean airspace is not something they did for fun ya'know.
Saddam was a great leader and one of the greatest things to happen to Iraq. Want proof? Look at life in Iraq pre-2003, and life now. Education, housing, medical care, equal rights for women, a SECULAR state and much, much more. All of which have disappeared post-2003 I might add.
I never stated that I like his son; I feel indifferent to his situation. Even though, I don't know too much about him and most of what is said regarding him is likely to be nonsense.
The thing is that, the situation with Kuwait was a conflict that the West can't possibly understand. Granted, I do agree it was a bad decision looking back at it now, but it was quite sound and serious at the time.
I might not agree with everything Castro stands for, but he does have an excellent point here. There are some significant successes of capitalism in Africa, Asia, and Latin America, but I can more easily think of capitalist failures in those places, failures that outnumber the successes.
Though he may have a point concerning capitalism, and more likely racially driven exploitation, I still find it to be a red herring. I am not convinced that communism, as I understand it, is a viable long term solution.
Well, it just seems like pointing out that there are flaws in capitalism doesn't invalidate the proposed flaws, whatever those may be, in communism. Then again I could just be perceiving an intention that wasn't there.
I hope you don't think I'm trying to change you. I'm merely curious about what you think.
I have not seen it work, I see all of the self-proclaimed communist countries and they all seem to be poor and repressive. Plus managing the logistics of an entire economy would be fairly difficult, I don't think one organization can do all of that. That's all I can think of at the moment.
I'm sorry if my sentences get a little confusing to read, I have the tendency to create awkward sentences.
No it's fine. You seem civil and curious so I'd gladly discuss with you, haha. All of those so-called "Communist" countries are simply not Communistic whatsoever. Hardly Socialist either. Marx himself has said that in order for Socialism and eventually Communism to develop, Democracy must be present. If it isn't, then it's not Socialism.
Regarding a planned-economy, well, you have a point. It is indeed difficult, but it branches off from heavy bureaucracy, and that isn't agreed upon between all Socialists. There are of course other forms of economy that could work with Socialism.
That's fine, haha. There are many problems with Communism, just as with Capitalism. The difference is that under Communism, those problems can be solved, whilst under Capitalism, they cannot. An example would be the problem of poverty, which cannot be eliminated under Capitalism.
As our capitalist society teaches them, they remember just bad people and things that are related (geographically, in this case) to communism. My history book in school arrived at insulting communism openly. And those who discuss in a civil way are very few.
You are not alone my friend. Every anti-Communist I've seen seems to think that I'm in love with Stalin or something. I just tend to sink their inaccurate and fallacy-ridden argument, in which then they would go into either denial-mode, or insult-mode. Either way, those are the only outcomes that would keep them believing in Capitalism. Ignore them if they just get on your nerves too much, I must have explained how nearly everything they say is wrong at least 20 times now.
Also, it's pretty easy to regard these quotes as truth and make it universal that Communism is better than Capitalism when you didn't live under the system. In my childhood, I experienced "Communism at its best". I was told repeatedly: "Do not say something wrong or they'll kill you";"Always smile when that dictator is mentioned in conversations" etc. Not only my family, but the entire nation was living in constant fear. One bad word of Ceausescu (the Romanian Communist dictator) and you'll disappear. You couldn't do anything, your thoughts were restricted and censored, whole city black-outs were common, and so on so forth. What is the success of Capitalism in Africa, Asia, and Latin America? And what is the success of Communism in Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, or Russia? Anyway, I was a little heated up after seeing this picture, so I apologise if I insulted you.